Tuesday, March 29, 2011

DC is Losing Me.

Photorealistic Bouncing Boy is TERRIFYING.

Remember when the Legion of Superheroes was notoriously the DC book that was way too complicated to understand? Let's just admit that we've gotten to the point where the entire DCU is in a constant state of Legion-Level migraine inducing complexity, shall we? A DC Universe that has been through the infinite Crisis, Final Crisis, Blackest Night, Brightest Day, and who knows what else is about to jump into yet another a reality warping event, which seems to be as good a jumping-off point as any.

Okay, I'll be buying this one.

My pull list for DC Comics is taking a massive hit in the next couple of months as my beloved Doom Patrol gets canceled again for the fifth time along with, well, a slew of books I wasn't buying either. All this to make way for a 50+ book Flashpoint  bonanza that leaves me cold. I'm also dropping Booster Gold as it jumps into Flashpoint. I may or may not get the core series when it comes out; but so far, I'm unimpressed with what I've seen. I guess I resent it for elbowing my book off the field, but Flashpoint looks dull. I love parallel world stories, but there have been a glut of those at both DC and Marvel; and at this point, I may be all alternate-realitied out. What with Brightest day still wrapping up,the lantern Wars going on, and Doomsday running around, I assume Flashpoint is meant to Rock the DC Universe to its Core FOREVER for a period of approximately Two days, Seven hours and twenty three minutes in overall DC History (only to be retroactively erased from history by the events of next year's Ginormous Time-Twisting Crossover.)

Its not as if I'm "boycotting" DC, though. I follow creators, and thus I continue to follow Grant Morrison's weaving Batman epic through Batman Inc. The Dick and Bruce and multiple Batmen deal has been a cool twist on the old formula. I've been reading the Legion of Superheroes and Adventure Comics again, enjoying both as a longtime Legion reader, though I'm leery of Green Lantern related elements intruding recently. I read Secret Six each month, though it feels like its headed toward a bad end lately. T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents is so doomed it was barely worth typing, and the same could probably be said of fellow outlier Zatanna. Basically, it seems like if I like a title, and it kind of stands off to the side doing its own thing, DC will cancel it.

I like the DC Comics characters, but lately, I don't like the DC Comics so much. Luckily, there's always Batman: The Brave and the Bold.


Booksteve said...

Those of us who jumped off at earlier mega-events have been waiting for you. Don't worry. We have support groups. There's some soft drinks and coffee in the lounge. I think they're running some Fleischer SUPERMAN cartoons later. Feel free to browse the literature about such great stand-alone comics as Terry Moore's ECHO and dozens of other independents.

Not sure really who DC's target audience is anymore. They alienated longtime fans like me so completely that even if I do see a book that interests me it's so deeply convoluted in non-continuity that I can't make heads or tails of it. Kids? I don't think so. New readers wouldn't last five minutes.

Kyle said...

There's no understating how completely underwhelming Flashpoint is. It's kind of amazing, really.

But I would say this much: you're still reading Batman because of Morrison's "weaving Batman epic." Which is great, so am I, but I that book is easily just as complicated as anything else DC publishes. It's actually perhaps more tied to continuity.

And let's not pretend that either of the Big Two are doing anything to attract new readers; all they do these days is try to hold on to old ones.

Matt D said...

"Basically, it seems like if I like a title, and it kind of stands off to the side doing its own thing, DC will cancel it."

Or at the least, if you like a title, and it kind of stands off to the side doing its own thing, the sales will be atrocious.

DC's pretty good at giving books enough rope. Enough marketing's another story but if the fanbase (limited as it is in the direct market) only wants to read comics they feel are "important," then DC has a lot more work to do by ways or reducation than just letting REBELS (which was a pretty good book) last more than 25 issues.

Of course, canceling the bottom 1/4 of the line to release 50 Tie-in books to a big event isn't exactly the right signal.

It's either a "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em." mentality or at the least. "Well, we made this bed and now if we want market share, we have to sleep in it."

You can't blame DC for axing good books that aren't selling. Except for how you sort of can blame them.

Kandou Erik said...

Yeah, DC is really driving my business away. Just about a year ago I actually had more DC titles on my pull list than I had Marvel. Now it's back to overwhelmingly Marvel.

Supergirl's book just became dead to me after the creative team switch. (It really helped inform me to drop the book when their next writer announces his departure after the first issue.)

The entire Superman line was just battered when JMS tried to mess with it. It's since improved with the new fill-in writer. And I love Paul Cornel's Lex Luthor -- but I also want Superman back in his own book. These two titles, with Superman coming back to Action Comics, and the vastly improved Grounded issues - they just barely escaped a cut on my pull list.

JSA has been on the fence too (Even though I even got my letter printed in today's issue!) Luckily things are looking better, with the All-Stars being canceled, and a supposedly happier tone coming back to the book. Now all they have to do is remind Scott Kolins that Liberty Belle and Jessie Quick are the same person.

I love Geoff John's Flash, so I'm of course reading the main Flashpoint mini-series. But I'm only trying the Reverse Flash One-Shot, and the Canterbury Cricket one-shot. (That just looks like fun!)

Besides Supergirl those books I mentioned above where merely in danger of getting cut. The same can't be said for Batman & Robin and Legion of Super-Heroes. The Legion book, while I love it, has just been annoying me to no end with tie-ins to Adventure Comics, Annuals, and One-Shots. I'm just not interested enough to keep on reading. And Batman and Robin - I loved the book, but I can't stick around waiting forever for the new creative team to get off their butts and actually put out the issues they promised. Paul Cornel's 3 issue fill-in was good, but the White Knight story has felt lacking -- and then we get another fill in team to do a Red Hood story arch, and without any info on wether the supposedly permeant creative team is suppose to come back. Sorry DC, you lost you're chance.

On the Marvel side, the one book over there I'm canceling is Deadpool. Simply too many issues all at once, with stories that are leaving me with less and less content; I always get the feeling the issues are being padded out with full-page silliness just to up the number of Deadpool issues sold each month. Silliness for Deadpool is fine - but those antics have long since become unfunny.

diana green said...

Well, I liked what JMS did with Superman, but I don't pay any attention to cataclysmic event storylines.
Very sad to see Doom Patrol go. Again. Giffen's snark gets kind of old, but except for the John Byrne run, which bored me to tears, I've always looked to DP for a challenging, genuinely weird fun read.

Anonymous said...

Read THUNDER--best DC book right now, up there with the Paul Cornel Luthor story.

The Seditionist said...

One of the things I hate is that DC tries to have it both ways: As continuity heavy as Marvel yet free to disrupt continuity every couple of years for a spike in sales. Anyone able to actually describe DC's continuity? Of course, FlashPoint's gonna be another reboot. (That said, if it gets rid of Superman's idiotic marriage, I'm for this ripping up of the past!)

Anonymous said...

It really is a shame, at one point in my life I was buying 30-35 DCU titles a month, with this latest wave of cancellations I'm buying 2 - Secret Six & whatever Batman book Grant Morrison is writing. Oh, and Jonah Hex too, does that count as a DCU book? So 3. Still more then Marvel I guess, which is at zero. I don't even buy JLA anymore, which I have been buying faithfully since 1977- the last renumbering was my jumping off point. 3 more books and I'm gone forever DC Universe!

Anonymous said...

I just gave up on comics. Besides the secret six trades or whatever trades I happen to see that has great art I just dont care. Prices are too high and I hate looking like a tool explaining character continuity.

Anxiety said...

Oddly, I've finding myself more drawn to DC and less enchanted with Marvel. Maybe part of it is DC's acknowledgement of the whole 2.99 price point deal, but in general I'm just happier with how they're developing their characters and telling their stories. I am wary of Flashpoint, and pretty sure it could lead to either a short DC vacation or a reexamination of what I read on a regular basis. Loving Brightest Day, and meanwhile kinda dreading/avoiding Fear Itself.

V. Fournier said...

"I like the DC Comics characters, but lately, I don't like the DC Comics so much."

This has always been my primary issue with DC. I like DC heroes more than pretty much any Marvel heroes, but DC storylines and villains often give me migraines.